Alexander KELLY {M} [P1570] = Agnes GREGG {F} [P781]
Married 4 Jan 1839, Minnigaff Kirkudbright Scotland IGI-M11876-4
Alexander KELLY
Born 3 Jul 1814, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-2
Christened 5 Jul 1814
Died 20 Sep 1869, Glasgow Scotland
IGI - ALEXANDER KELLY Christening: 05 JUL 1814 Penninghame, Wigtown, Scotland birth date: 03 Jul 1814: Father: JOHN KELLY Mother: ISABELLA NICOL: C11895-2
Probable birth for Alexander Kelly: Correct for age and location - no other births available for an Alexander Kelly in location
Agnes GREGG
Alias Agnes KELLY
Born EST 1819, Barr Ayrs Sc.
Died Apr 1888, Kansas USA
Agnes Gregg married in Barr Ayrs to Alexander Kelly who died in Scotland - the widow emigrated with her family to USA C.1874
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In 1870 Some Kelly's living with James Gregg
United States Census, 1870
Home in 1870: Kansas, United States Household Gender Age
James Gregg M 42y Birthplace: Scotland
Jennet Gregg F 46y Birthplace: Scotland
Agnes Kelly F 50y Birthplace: Scotland
Andrew Kelly M 15y Birthplace: Scotland
Margaret Kelly F 28y Birthplace: Scotland
Christopher Rots M 20y Birthplace: Birthplace: Hesse Cassel, Hesse Cassel
Meri Robbing F 22y Birthplace: Hanover
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More family members and John McBride in 1870
Home in 1870: Kansas, United States
United States Census, 1870
John Kelly M 28y
Mary Ann Kelly F 26y
Agnes Kelly F 13y
James Kelly M 11y
Mary Kelly F 7y
John Mcbride M 21y
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Household Record: 1880 United States Census: Household: Source Information:
Census Place Nemaha, Nemaha, Kansas. Family History Library Film 1254390NA Film Number T9-0390 Page Number 43A
Name Relation MaritalStatus Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Agnes KELLEY Self Widow Female W 61 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT
John KELLEY Son Single Male W 36 SCOT Farming SCOT SCOT
James KELLEY Son Single Male W 20 SCOT SCOT SCOT
Marry KELLEY Dau Single Female W 16 SCOT At School SCOT SCOT * b.. 1864
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Is this the same Agnes? United States Census, 1910 for Agnes Kelly
Name: Agnes Kelly Birthplace: Relationship to Head of Household: Residence: Beloit, Mitchell, Kansas Marital Status: Single Race : White Gender: Female
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POSSIBLE?:
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915
Agnes Kelly death date: 03 Feb 1897 death place: West Chester, Pennsylvania gender: Female race: White death age: 68 years estimated birth year: 1829 birthplace: Scotland marital status: Widowed father's birthplace: Scotch mother's birthplace: Scotch burial place: Mount Moriah, Phila. burial date: 06 Feb 1897 digital folder number: 4009636
Born 1840, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Christened 2 May 1840, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Margaret Kelly baptism 02 May 1840, PENNINGHAME, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND father's name: Alexander Kelly mother's name: Agnes Gregg: C11895-4 : Scotland-ODM
Margaret Kelly (married name Milton) is listed in the settlement of the James Gregg estate(USA). and, immediately following is Mary Kelly Waters. Seneca records record that Mary Ellen Waters 18 married George Korber 26, October 28th 1902 at the residence of W. E. Watters, Rev. R. J. McCready officiating. William Watters and wife, Mary Kelly Watters, lived in Scotch Valley, section 15 and section 9. They went to Canada 1902?. The Korbers 1912. May Watters Korber's obituary says she died May 1944. Her mother Mary Kelly Watters, six month previous. We find no data for Margaret, though via Kelly family "a son died young".
John KELLY {M} [P1595] = Janet GREGG {F} [P237] > Family [F257]
Married 1882, Kansas USA
John KELLY
Born 21 Jan 1842, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Christened 30 Jan 1842, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Died Kansas USA
IGI - John Kelly baptism 30 Jan 1842, PENNINGHAME, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND birth date: 21 Jan 1842 father's name: Alexander Kelly mother's name: Agnes Gregg : C11895-4 : Scotland-VR
John Kelly went as a young man to America to his uncle "Jimmy" Gregg to make a home for his mother and the brothers and sisters.
In America at aged 40 John Kelly married his first cousin [P237]Janet Gregg(Daughter to Andrew Gregg[P206]
John was a twin to Marian and Great Grandfather to Shannon E Kelly(USA).aska.
Janet GREGG
Alias Janet KELLY
Born 8 Aug 1855, Dalreock, Colmonell Ayrs Scotland IGI C11580-1
Died Kansas USA
IGI - Janet Gregg, birth date: 08 Aug 1855 BARR BY GIRVAN, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: Andrew Gregg, mother's name: Isabella Mcilwraith: C11580-1: Scotland-ODM
From 'Scotch Valley History' - Janet went to USA with Aunt Jennet Gregg[P1569] to Scotch Valley in 1875. Janet married [P1595]John Kelly(first cousins) in Kansas USA. We believe Janet's brother JOHN twice went to visited her in USA.
Jeff Higgins - June 2004:
Child 5.Janet Gregg, born 08 Aug 1855 at Dalreoch, Colmonell and according to the birth entry she was the 5th child, 2 boys and 3 girls living. Janet lived with her parents until she emigrated.
At Ellis Island website and found the following...
John Greig, 56, arrived in New York aboard the "Caledonia" on 07 Jul 1907, he was on his way to see his sister Mrs Janet Kelly in Seneca. He was a shepherd and lived in Pinwherry, Ayrshire.
John Greig, 62, arrived in New York again aboard the Caledonia (superstitious perhaps) on 14 Apr 1913, he was on his way to see his sister Mrs Janet Kelly in Seneca. He was a shepherd and he gave his brother Ivan Gregg, in Ballantrae, as a contact.
These seem to be the only TWO occasions that John visited
Born 21 Jan 1842, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Christened 30 Jan 1842, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Died 4 Aug 1904, Kansa USA
IGI - May Kelly baptism 30 Jan 1842 PENNINGHAME, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND birth date: 21 Jan 1842 father's name: Alexander Kelly mother's name: Agnes Gregg : C11895-4 : Scotland-VR
Marians birth details indicate her name to be May
Twin to John. Marians married name = Graham(USA)
The twin Marian had black hair. She married JOHN Graham, and lived in the vicinity of Atchison Kansas. Gregg's estate settlement lists many names of the Graham family. Marian was a Seventh Day Adventist, and when she came to visit her twin brother, John, they argued religion far into the night. Marian died August 4, 1904.
Household Record: 1880 United States Census
Family History Library Film 1254390 NA Film Number T9-0390 Page Number 42D
Household: Source Information: Census Place Nemaha, Nemaha, Kansas
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John GRAHAM Self M Male W 42 SCOT Farming SCOT SCOT
Marron GRAHAM Wife M Female W 38 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT
Agnes GRAHAM Dau S Female W 9 KS At School SCOT SCOT [Agnes Gregg Graham]
Allen GRAHAM Dau S Female W 7 KS At School SCOT SCOT
John GRAHAM Son S Male W 5 KS At School SCOT SCOT
Willie GRAHAM Son S Male W 4 KS SCOT SCOT
Susan GRAHAM Dau S Female W 1 KS SCOT SCOT
Joan Fisher 2004:
The children of Marian Kelly and John. Graham:
1 AGNES Gregg Graham, married Mr. Gardener In early 1911 she was living on the Fairgrounds, Oregon but by August 1911 she settled at 2157 Maple Avenue, Salem, Oregon
4 WILLIAM Graham, early in 1911 was living at College Park, Washington, U.S.A. but he'd died by August 1911 leaving three children living at the College Park address:
Walter, age 10, Esther, age 8, Albert, age 6
5 SUSANNA Graham, married Mr. Richards and in early 1911 was living at 1436 Crowell St., Atchinson, Kansas. By August 1911 she was at 3003 Agnes Avenue, Kansas City, Missouri
ALEXANDER, 1911 at R.F.D. #1, Atchinson, Kansas
ANDREW Graham, same place as his brother Alexander
HELEN Douglas Graham, married Chester H. Rogers. She died on 14 July 1898 leaving a daughter Marion Helen Rogers (this is written in by hand on the affidavit of Susanna G-Richards and also included in the affidavit of John Kelly) Marion was a minor, presumably living with her father. In early 1911 she could be reached c/o C.H. Rogers, College Park, Washington but by August 1911 she was at 126 East Alder St., Walla Walla, Washington.
Born 21 Jan 1842, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Christened 30 Jan 1842, Penninghame Wigtown Scotland IGI-C11895-4
Died 1859, Sorn Ayrs Scotland
Buried 1859, Catrine Churchyard Ayrs Scotland
IGI - May Kelly baptism 30 Jan 1842 baptism PENNINGHAME, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND birth date: 21 Jan 1842 father's name: Alexander Kelly mother's name: Agnes Gregg : C11895-4 : Scotland-VR
Is there an error in the IGI birth record for this child?
They appear to be the same as Marian and John who were known as TWINS. Were Mary/May, John and Marion Triplets?
Born ABT 1846, Sorn Ayrs
Died USA
Married Hugh McAlpine (May 8 1846-April 5 1906)
CHILDREN of Sarah Kelly and Hugh McAlpine
William Mcalpine birth date: 12 Nov 1870 MAUCHLINE, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: Hugh Mcalpine mother's name: Sarah Kelly C11604-1 Scotland-ODM
Alexander Mcalpine birth date: 26 Aug 1872: TARBOLTON, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: Hugh Mcalpine mother's name: Sarah Kelly : C11619-1 : Scotland-ODM
Agnes Alpine birth date: 19 Aug 1874 MAUCHLINE, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: Hugh Alpine: Sarah Kelly : C11604-1 Scotland-ODM
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Related?
British Columbia Death Registrations, for Hugh Mcalpine
Death Date: 14 Jan 1879 Death Place: , British Columbia, Canada Name: Hugh Mcalpine Gender: Male Age: 47y Birth Date: Birthplace: Wigton Cumberland, England Marital Status: Spouse: Father: Mother: Indian Agency: Indian Band/Tribe: Film Number: 1927115 Digital Folder Number: 4437839 Image Number: 1400 British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13087
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Related?
Ontario Deaths,1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947
name: Mcalpine event: Death event date: 21 May 1887 event place: Mosa, Middlesex, Ontario gender: Female age: 2 estimated birth year: 1885 father: Hugh Mcalpine
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Joan Fisher 2004:
Married Hugh McAlpine (May 8 1846-April 5 1906). Went to Kansas USA from Scotland with a family of 2 sons and 3 daughters.
Two daughters and son Hugh were born in America.
Children of Sarah Kelly.
Son William was a mason, according to the Scotch Valley History. William never married,
Son Hugh was a farmer.
Alexander an electrician had one daughter and died at Crooked River oregon,
Agnes married Frank Novotony,
Mary married William Kriley,
Margaret married name Cleveland,
Ida married name was Stewart, Ida McAlpine Stewart had a daughter Florence Stewart (same source) who married Mr. Bonte and lived in Washington, Kansas.
Marian married Barney Kriley,
Hugh Oct 23 1889-Jan 6 1972 was a WW I veteran . Buried at Table Rock Nebraska
Born Aug 1850, Ochiltree Ayrs
Died 14 Jan 1858, Sorn Ayrs Aged 7
Buried Jan 1858, Catrine Churchyard Ayrs Scotland
Born ABT 1854, Sorn Ayrs Sc.
Died 15 Apr 1893, Kanas City USA
Went to USA with mother and family.
Joan Fisher 2004:
Andrew Kelly, son of Alexander Kelly and Agnes Gregg. He attended Monmouth College, Monmouth, Illinois, where he graduated in pharmacy. He followed this by working in a drugstore in Pawnee City.
He married Ida Eaken (1857-?), daughter of W.D. Eaken and (sister of Rev.) McCready, in 1895 in Emporia Kansas. The Rev. James Barnett officiated.
They had three children: Mary Agnes Kelly, 1880 to Dec 1886 (buried in Kansas City), William Alexander Kelly, 1882 to Dec 1886, buried in Kansas City, (they died of Scarlet Fever) Albert Eaken Kelly, born 12 Jan 1887 in Pawnee City, Nebraska and died 14 Dec 1961 in Whittier, California.
In 1885 Andrew went to Kansas City Medical School.
At the time of his death on 15 April 1893, in Kansas City, he was an assistant city physician. He died quite suddenly of consumption. He was buried at Union Cemetery, Kansas City, (I have Kansas--isn't Kansas City in Missouri or are there two Kansas Citys?)
Albert Eaken Kelly was living in Pawnee City in 1911. He was a minister in the United Presbyterian Church for 47 years. He had two honourary doctoral degrees. In 1955 he was the Moderator of the General Assembly of the United Presbyterian Church. He also served at Mission Creek. He was killed in a car accident.
Born EST 1855, Sorn Ayrs Scotland
Died 1860, Sorn Ayrshire
Buried 1860, Catrine Churchyard Ayrs Scotland
Born 4 May 1857, Sorn Ayrs Scotland IGI-C11613-1
Died Canada
IGI - Agnes Kelly birth 04 May 1857 SORN, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: Alexander Kelly mother's name: Agnes Greig : C11613-1 : Scotland-ODM
Joan Fisher Jul 2004:
The line for Agnes Kelly, daughter of Alexander and Agnes Gregg.
Agnes married David Fisher, son of David Fisher and Elizabeth Lieshman. David and his brothers James and (William) Andrew came to the U.S. from Rerrick Parish, Kirkcudbright in 1870. Their father, a farmer, had died three years before. They left three sisters and their mother behind. They were following their neighbours, the McBrides and within days of arriving James married Margaret McBride and Andrew married her sister Barbara. Andrew and Barbara left within a few years for New Zealand.
David Fisher filed his naturalization intent (along with his brother Andrew) on the 26 Mar 1872.
David and Agnes were married on 28 Dec 1877 by the Rev. R.J. McCready---presumably in Scotch Valley (source Scotch Valley History)
They had a son Robert A. born in Kansas on Dec. 1878 (all kid's birthdates from the 1900 Nemaha Twp census.)
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Household Record: 1880 United States Census
Household: Source Information:
Census Place Nemaha, Nemaha, Kansas
Family History Library Film 1254390 NA Film Number T9-0390 Page Number 42C
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
David FISHER Self M Male W 29 SCOT Farming SCOT SCOT
Agnes FISHER Wife M Female W 23 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT
Robert A. FISHER Son S Male W 1 KS SCOT SCOT
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[ Census 1880 Nemaha Twp., Nemaha County, Kansas (David living next door to his brother James and wife Margaret and family)
Household Record: 1880 United States Census
Household: Source Information: Family History Library Film 1254390 NA Film Number T9-0390 Page Number 42C
Census Place Nemaha, Nemaha, Kansas
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
James FISHER Self M Male W 35 SCOT Farming SCOT SCOT
Margreth FISHER Wife M Female W 27 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT
Lisse A. FISHER Dau S Female W 5 KS SCOT SCOT
David J. FISHER Son S Male W 3 KS SCOT SCOT
Jannett J. FISHER Dau S Female W 5M KS SCOT SCOT
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In November 1880 David and Agnes had a son John A. Fisher. In January 1883 a daughter Mary A. Fisher
On 24 May 1884 James and David Fisher acquired the NW 1/4 of Section 17, Nemeha Township, Kansas (SVH)
On 30 Jan 1885 they had Andrew Fisher (died 14 Feb 1885).On Dec 1885 they had William J. Fisher. In April 1888 they had Jeannie Fisher
1890 census burned--can't be accessed
In July 1890 they had Maggie E. Fisher. In April 1895 they had David A. Fisher
on the 15 Jan 1897 in Scotch Valley, Kansas David as Secretary and William Clark as President signed a deed to the McBride property. I think they were doing this on behalf of the church. Sorry.
In Jan 1899 they had Roy A. Fisher
Ida and James Fisher died as infants and are buried in the Scotch Valley Cemetary. They were born and died between census.
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1900 Nemaha Township, Nemah County, Kansas, U.S.A. Census
David Fisher, Oct. 1845, born Scotland, emigrated 1870, married 22 years (1878)
Agnes Fisher, May 1859, born Scotland, emigrated 1869, married 22 years
Robert A. Fisher, Dec 1878, all children born in Kansas
John A. Fisher, Nov 1880
Mary A. Fisher, Jan 1883
William J. Fisher, Dec 1885
Jeannie Fisher, April 1888
Maggie E. Fisher, July 1890
David A. Fisher, April 1895
Roy A. Fisher, Jan 1899
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The Scotch Valley history says, "With five sons in the family, land was high priced in Kansas, more land could be bought in Canada at cheaper prices." So the family emigrated to Alberta (then still the Northwest Territories), Canada in 1903. This was the same year that brother James Fisher and some members of the Kelly family emigrated to Alberta. In 1911 Agnes Kelly Fisher was living in Ray, Alberta (which I've been told is near Edmonton but I can't find for the life of me. I also have to say that this branch of the family has disappeared off the face of the earth but then the Fisher men NEVER talked about family.)
James KELLY {M} [P1641] = Ellen or Helen BAIRD {F} [P1804] > Family [F507]
Married ABT 1882, Kansas USA
James KELLY
Born 10 Jun 1859, Sorn Ayrs Scotland IGI-C116131
Died 9 Mar 1939, Alberta Canada
IGI - James Kelly birth 10 Jun 1859 SORN, AYR, SCOTLAND father's name: Alexander Kelly mother's name: Agnes Greigg: C11613-1 : Scotland-ODM
Went to USA with mother and family aged 10.
Joan Fisher June 2004: In 1911 James Kelly lived in Ray, Alberta, Canada. He was a namesake of James Gregg and so got a special bequest in JG's will.
From Gloria Cathcart Canada - June 2004:
I am a great granddaughter to James Kelly born June 10, 1859, and died March 9, 1939. As a 10 year old he emigrated to Kansas and is listed in the Scotch Valley write-up. Then in 1901 he came to Alberta, Canada, bringing his family of 10 (little Agnes was buried in Scotch Valley) in 1902.. Another baby, Nellie, was born in Alberta. (Nellie was midwife at my birth.)
James and his family farmed, but he was not a farmer at heart, was known for his work as a minister and was known as Preacher Kelly. In 1913 he received special ordination and then was officially the Reverend James Kelly, but still fondly called preacher Kelly. He served for 32 years prior to retiring in 1934 at the age of 74. He died 3 months prior to his 80th birthday.
My birth occurred 3 weeks prior to his death. My parents attended his funeral and I have visited his gravesite a number of times. One of the many churches in which he preached, one that he started, is where I first attended church. It still stands today.
I have vague recollections of great grandma Ellen and some of the older children, and certainly remember a number of the others much more clearly. My grandmother was Alice, the firstborn of the twins.
[ Alice Kelly F Birth Date: Sep 1895 Birthplace: Kansas Daughter Single Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother: Mother's Birthplace: Nebraska
Alice Kelly (17 Sept 1895- ?) a twin with Maude, married Carl Browning and had Earl, Ruth and Alice. She lived in both Edmonton, Alberta and Vancouver, B.C., Canada]
I have been trying since last summer to make a listing of the descendents of Rev. James Kelly, 10 of the 12 having issue. I certainly have enjoyed meeting many of the second and third cousins. I have much work yet to do.
For some time now I have been corresponding with Shannon E Kelly, since his great grandfather John Kelly was the older brother to my great grandfather James Kelly. Sister Agnes Kelly married David Fisher (of the Fishers Three in Scotch Valley), and they too came to this same part of Alberta, Canada.
I have been keenly interested in your website and will continue to follow it and search for some answers.
Sincerely, Gloria Cathcart
Ellen or Helen BAIRD
Alias Ellen or Helen KELLY
Born 13 Nov 1864
Died 14 Apr 1947
Parents John Baird (1821-1872) and Agnes Hays (21 Aug 1833-10 Aug 1886).
From Gloria Cathcart Canada - June 2004: I am great granddaughter to Ellen Baird
Born 1864, Probably Sorn Ayrshire
Mary Kelly was shown as aged 16 on the 1880 Census at Nemaha USA hence the earlier Mary Kelly born 1844 to Alexander Kelly and Agnes Gregg at Wigtown Scotland must have died before 1864.
Mary Kelly Milton and her husband William E. Watters could be reached in 1911 at Box 145, Strathcona, Alberta. This is according to John Kelly's affidavit.
IGI Marriage: Alexander Kelly bride's name: Agnes Gregg 04 Jan 1839 Minnigaff ,Kirkcudbright, Scotland: M11876-4 : Scotland-ODM
Piece: SCT1851/609 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Ochiltree Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Ochiltree
Folio: 0 Page: 40 Schedule: 192
Address: Mill Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KELLY Alexander Head M M 35 Agricultural Labourer Wigtownshire - Penninghame
KELLY Agnes Wife M F 32 Ayrshire - Barr
KELLY John Son U M 9 Wigtownshire - Penninghame
KELLY Marion Dau U F 9 Unknown - - Page: 0/41
KELLY Mary Dau U F 7 Wigtownshire - Penninghame K
ELLY Sarah Dau U F 3 Ayrshire - Sorn
KELLY William Son U M 8m Ayrshire - Ochiltree
There were children to this marriage who migrated to USA with their widowed mother Agnes (Gregg) Kelly C.1874
family of Agnes and Alexander Kelly:
Margaret Kelly Milton,
John twin
Marian Kelly Graham,twin
Sarah Kelly McAlpine,
Agnes Kelly Fisher,
James Kelly,
Andrew Kelly.