James Robert GREIG {M} [P16] = Jessie RODGER {F} [P1566]
Married 8 Jul 1863, Belfast Ireland
James Robert GREIG
Born 14 Jun 1837, Port Glasgow Greenock IGI-C11960-2
Died 26 Nov 1915, Hammersmith London UK
Buried Cathcart Cemetry Renfrewshire
The additional information that supports James Robert Greig being James Gregg [P16] is :
a) in the 1881 census James R. Greig is aged 43 and recorded as born at Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire
b) in the Ellis Island records for the voyage of the Campania from Liverpool on 16 Dec 1911 to New York on 23 Dec 1911 James Rob't Greig has declared an age of 74 with place of birth Port Glasgow, Scotland
c) in the certificate of the marriage at Belfast of James Robert Greig and Jessie Rodger, 8 Jul 1863, James Robert is resident in Glasgow and his father's name is James Greig, Captain at Sea (no specific ages given and no mention that James Greig Sr is deceased)
d) in the certificate of the death of James Robert Greig, 26 Nov 1915, at Hammersmith, London his age is given as 79, a one year discrepancy in age but the date matches with that in the family list. For each of these there are associated names or addresses that provide supporting evidence that we are dealing with the correct James Robert Greig. I think we are fairly confident that the link to the descendants of Robert Gregg can be made, but would be glad to hear as to whether you have any additional information that would either confirm or destroy our belief.
I might mention that James Robert and Jessie obviously believed in preserving the name - between 1864 and 1882 they had 14 children, all boys. Four died young, three died unmarried without any (known) issue and two of the other seven had only daughters. The family has dispersed widely and we have been trying to make contact with any members of the other surviving lines from James and Jessie.
My regards, with our thanks for the work that you have put into your website, and glad to have your views,
John
Dr John B Greig, Carshalton. Surrey
13 September 2002
Jessie RODGER
Alias GREGG
Born 12 May 1839, Belfast Ireland
Died 25 Apr 1924, Elmfield Rd Bromley Kent Eng.
Born 6 Apr 1864, Tradeston Glasgow Lanark Scotland IGI 11933-1
Died 31 Mar 1912, Saranak Lake New York USA
Buried Upper Mont Clare New Jersey
IGI - James Greig birth 06 Apr 1864 TRADESTON, GLASGOW, LANARK,SCOTLAND father's name: James Robert Greig mother's name: Jessie Rodger : C11933-1 Scotland-ODM6
Born 20 Mar 1865, Govan Lanark Scotland IGI - C11646-1
Buried 28 Jun 1925, Cedros Estate Trinidad
IGI - William Greig birth 25 Apr 1857 birthplace: GOVAN, LANARK, SCOTLAND father's name: James Greig mother's name: Isabella Carswell Shields: C11646-1: Scotland-ODMMarried Beatrice ???? Dec 1891. (Family document by her).Beatrice born ca. Dec 1869 in St Johns, Newfoundland, Canada (Ellis Island Records). They had two daughters
David Rodger GREIG {M} [P1578]
Born 10 May 1867, Govan Lanark Scotland IGI - C116461
Died 6 Dec 1885, Langside Dalry Scotland
IGI - : David Rodger Greig gender: Male birth date: 10 May 1867 birthplace: GOVAN, LANARK, SCOTLAND father's name: James Robert Greig mother's name: Jessie Rodger indexing project (batch) number: C11646-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516
Related? : James Greig 16/12/1881 Ayr Sheriff Court Wills 5 SC6/46/14 of Brownhills, residing at Langside, Parish of Dalry, d. 27/06/1880 at Langside aforesaid, testate Will
George Alexander GREIG {M} [P1579]
Born 28 Apr 1869, Govan Lanark Scotland IGI C11646-1
Died 28 Jul 1877, Clynder Dumbarton Scotland
IGI - name: George Alexander Greig gender: Male birth date: 28 Apr 1869 birthplace: GOVAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND father's name: James Robert Greig mother's name: Jessie Rodger indexing project (batch) number: C11646-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516
Born 28 Jun 1870, Lanark Govan Scotland IGI - C11646-1
Died 25 Jul 1877, Clynder Dumbarton Scotland
IGI - Herbert Lea Greig gender: Male birth date: 28 Jun 1870 birthplace: GOVAN, LANARK, SCOTLAND father's name: James Robert Greig mother's name: Issie Rodger indexing project (batch) number: C11646-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516
Robert McGregor Turnbull GREIG {M} [P1581]
Born 18 Aug 1871, Govan Lanark Scotland IGI - C11646-1
Died 23 Sep 1903, Drowned in Caribbean Sea
IGI -Robert Mcgregor Turnbull Grieg gender: Male birth date: 18 Aug 1871 birthplace: GOVAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND father's name: James Robert Grieg mother's name: Jessie Rodger indexing project (batch) number: C11646-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516
Married Eileen McCarthy.They had one son, one daughter.
Born 7 Apr 1873, Cathcart Renfrew Sc. IGI C115601
Died 5 Jan 1890, Barbados B.W.I
Buried Trinidad B.W.I
Born 27 Jul 1874, Cathcart Renfrew Sc. IGI C115601
Died 31 Aug 1957, Darien Conneticut USA
Married (1) Helen Aldrich born 27 Jul 1885 in Honolulu Hawaii
They had one son
Married (2) Ruth WHEELER
Born 14 Sep 1875, Cathcart Renfrew Sc.
Died 12 Jul 1958, Honolulu Hawaii USA
Married, on 15 Aug 1901 in Hawaii, Herminie Ellen Whittington born on 23 Sep 1874. They had two daughters and two sons
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Home in 1930: Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii Territory
1930 Census: 1st April 1930 Fifteenth Census Of The United States Population Of Hawaii Enumration District 2-25 Sheet 1b
Residence: Oahu Avenue Oahu Island Honolulu City Honolulu
Name ...Relation .. Gender .. Race...Age...Approx Year Born...Place Born... Father Born... Mother Born... Occupation
Greig Gregor T Head Male Oc (White) 54 abt 1876 Scotland Scotland Scotland Bank Auditor Immigration Year: 1889
Greig Herminie Wife Female Oc (White) 55 abt 1875 California England England
Greig Edith Daughter Female Oc (White) 23 abt 1907 Hawaii Scotland California Teacher Public School
Greig Robert Son Male Oc (White) 21 abt 1909 Hawaii Scotland California
Greig David Son Male Oc (White) 18 abt 1912 Hawaii Scotland California
Whittington Richard Nephew Male Oc (White) 18 abt 1912 Hawaii Hawaii Hawaii Salesman Stationery
Born 8 Jan 1877
Died 24 Apr 1945, Cheltenham Eng.
John was known as Ivie(A common male name in Ayrshire Sc. during 18/19th Centuries)
Born 12 Oct 1878
Died 25 Nov 1949, in Canada
Married, after 1912, to Adele Gertrud ???? born (Est) in 1893. They had a daughter and two sons
Born 29 Dec 1879, Cathcart Renfrew Sc.
Died 27 Dec 1939, Cedros Estates Trinidad W.I
Married Ethel May Cullen on 26 Feb 1919 in Scarborough, Yorkshire, England. Ethel was born 25 May 1894(Marriage Certificate). They had one daughter and one son.
Died 27 Dec 1939 [?] in Cedros Estates, Trinidad, West Indies (discrepancy between two Family lists)
Alexander Rodger GREGG {M} [P1586]
Born 11 Mar 1881, Cathcart Renfrew Sc.
Died 19 Nov 1916, St Annes-on-Sea Lancs. Eng.
Buried St Annes-on-Sea
SOURCE: Fam List, Inventory, Probate & MI Cathcart cemetery
Married Lynda Marsden Bayley 1 Oct 1913 in St Annes-on-the-Sea, Lancashire, England. They had one daughter
Arthur Turnbull GREGG {M} [P1587]
Born 22 Sep 1882
Died 19 Aug 1941, (Murdered) Trinidad W.I
Died (murdered) 19 Aug 1941 in Trinidad, West Indies (Family list and a family diary)
Married Jessie Rodger on 8 Jul 1863 in Belfast, Ireland (Register entry)
Much of the information for this family is courtesy of Dr John B Greig of Carshalton Surrey United Kingdom 2002/2003
M.I INSCRIPTION FOR JAMES ROBERT AND JESSIE GREIG
JAMES ROBERT GREIG, DIED AT LONDON, 26TH NOV. 1915, AGED 78 YEARS. "A FEW MORE YEARS OF EVIL PAST, WE REACH THE HAPPY SHORE, WHERE DEATH DIVIDED FRIENDS AT LAST SHALL MEET TO PART NO MORE."
JESSIE RODGER GREIG, DIED AT BROMLEY, KENT, 25TH APRIL 1924, AGED 84 YEARS.
IN MEMORY OF THEIR CHILDREN:
ALEXANDER RODGER GREIG, DIED AT ST ANNES ON THE SEA AND IS BURIED THERE. AGED 35 YEARS "HE GIVETH HIS BELOVED SLEEP."
WILLIAM GREIG DIED AT TRINIDAD, B.W.I. 28TH JUNE, 1925, AGED 61 YEARS
HERBERT LEA DIED AT CLYNDER, 26TH JUNE 1877, AGED 7 YEARS
GEORGE ALEXANDER, DIED AT CLYNDER, 25TH JULY 1877, AGED 8 YEARS & 3 MONTHS.
DAVID RODGER, DIED AT LANGSIDE, 6TH DECEMBER 1885, AGED 18 YEARS & 7 MONTHS
RODGER GREIG, DIED AT BARBADOS, 5TH JANUARY 1890, AGED 16¾ YEARS AND WAS BURIED AT TRINIDAD.
ROBERT M. T. GREIG, DROWNED IN CARIBBEAN SEA, 23RD SEPTEMBER 1903, AGED 32 YEARS.
JAMES GREIG DIED AT SARANAC LAKE, NEW YORK STATE, 31ST MARCH 1912, AGED 48 YEARS AND WAS BURIED AT UPPER MONTCLAIR. NEW JERSEY.
"HE SHALL GATHER THE LAMBS WITH HIS ARM AND CARRY THEM IN HIS BOSOM."
"THEY SHALL BE MINE SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS IN THAT DAY WHEN I MAKE UP MY JEWELS."
Notes for above
1.Transcription made 1 June 2003 at Cathcart Cemetery by John Beamish Greig (JBG)
2.The cemeteries and crematoria department of the East Renfrewshire district council are responsible for the cemetery. Their phone number is 0141 577 3913. A staff member indicated that James Robert Greig owned lairs 1295-1299 and 1320-1325 in Section F of the cemetery. However, since there are no plans or markers available in the cemetery, it was not possible to determine with which lairs the identified monuments were associated. [JBG, 04/06/2003]
3.When reading the place of death of Herbert Lea [Greig] and George Alexander [Greig] at the cemetery I was uncertain whether it should be Glynder or Clynder. A check of the Ordnance Survey Gazetteer did not reveal any place name 'Glynder' but there is a small town called 'Clynder' in the present Strathclyde region, formerly Dumbartonshire. It is on the west shore of Gare Loch in NGR square NS2484, Landranger sheet 56, prefix 2....6.... Gare Loch opens into the Firth of Clyde on the north shore opposite Greenock. [JBG, 04/06/2003]
4.No date of death was recorded for Alexander Rodger Greig, checked against photograph. [JBG, 07/06/2003]
At the cemetery I had read 'SARANAS' Lake but this is obviously not correct. Independent reading (IRG) of a negative under a microscope excluded it as being an 'S' at the end but thought it might be an 'L'. So, probably, the original inscription was, correctly, 'Saranac Lake'. [JBG, 16/06/2003]
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